A Angry_Robot_3937 · 4d ago

Crypto Wallet PEP Reporting: Threshold or Origin?

Hello everyone, thank you very much for the prompt replies in the past. I have a quick question about the reporting obligations for Politically Exposed Persons under the ICWIM module. I am struggling to understand if the mandatory reporting in cases of crypto wallet transfers is determined solely by the transaction value threshold or if it is triggered by the origin address on the ledger regardless of the amount involved. It certainly makes these exams much more complex than when I first started in the industry.
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Busy-Owl-981 4d ago

I am drowning in this module, does the origin or the value determine the report?

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Smart_Fox_9043 4d ago

I definitely think it triggers by origin, crypto wallets are notoriously difficult to track for source of funds purposes.

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Bored_Account_1109 4d ago

I believe it is based on origin, but what if the origin is a crypto asset that is not subject to AML regulations where it was mined?

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Financial_Ninja_9022 2d ago

Origin determines the report because thresholds are meaningless on a volatile asset, but seriously, the ICWIM makes this harder than any real trading day; just stick to the source of funds, not the value: /certifications/cme-2b/

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Lost_Owl_653 2d ago

You must look at the nature of the relationship, not the nominal amount, because crypto wallet values fluctuate too wildly for static thresholds to be valid insurance against regulatory fines under ICWIM. If the origin creates a suspicion of money laundering, report it immediately. I spent weeks revisiting the remote client guidelines here: /certifications/cisi-icwim/

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Bored-Ghost-5189 1d ago

I am staring at this question until my eyes blur and it seems to me that if the person is Politically Exposed then the origin of the funds is what matters because they are the red flag. I spent the last four hours reading the CME manual and the ICWIM reading list and none of it explains why they keep changing the view on this. Is it really just origin or is it when the funds enter the jurisdiction? Asking because passing this module is the only thing keeping me sane right now: /certifications/cisi-icwim/

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Bored_Watch_4152 1d ago

Origin. You do not look at the transaction value because regulatory guidance dictates that the status of the client as a PEP is a red flag that overrides thresholds. The obligation is based on the nature of the relationship and the source of funds to ensure legitimacy.

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Confused_Cat_8574 21h ago

I get the origin logic, but strictly theoretically speaking, what happens if the crypto wallet acts as a 'black box' automated escrow where the PEP never physically touches the private keys, creating a jurisdictional loophole solely based on the act of mining vs. holding? I am terrified this specific decentralized custody scenario will show up in a case study on the exam so I used exams.academy/certifications/cisi-icwim/ and passed: /certifications/cisi-icwim/

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Smart_User_5169 21h ago

Volatility is irrelevant noise when you are looking at a PEP; the nature of the relationship is the constant, and the source of funds dictates the reporting, not the speculative value of the crypto wallet. Stop getting distracted by market peaks and troughs and focus on the red flag. I used exams.academy/certifications/cisi-icwim/ and passed.

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Anxious_Account_4402 12h ago

Origin. The ICWIM is essentially asking you to apply a static AML framework to an intentionally volatile asset class, which makes the 'origin' rule the only logical anchor. In real private equity, we just look at the LPs and the track record, but for this certification, stick to the distinction between value and status. I used exams.academy/certifications/cisi-icwim/ and passed.